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Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilstein

Postby FrankieS791 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:43 am

Looking at changing my springs on a 2006 MX-5 with soft top. Plans on suspension are to keep my factory sport suspension Bilsteins (17K miles on them) and install new springs and sway bars. Which spring would work best on the factory shocks? Car will be used for spirited street driving and will not be used on track. Also, would you suggest Racing Beat sways or RX-8 Sways red front and yellow rear? If not these 2 sways what do you suggest. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:22 am

For the springs my suggestion is our Progress Springs.

As for the sways, my suggestion is do the springs and see what you think of the results. Perhaps you come back saying you want just a little more flatness in the turns, and the RX8 sways give a bit more. But perhaps you come saying you want it 50% better in the turns, then I will suggest the Racing Beat Sways. And perhaps you come back saying you want it 100% better/flatter in the turns...in which case we suggest our Progress Sways.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby ThomasM344 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:03 am

I can definitely endorse the progress springs and progress sways package. I had the same intentions and Brian pointed me in the right direction with both products.

If had I to do them all over I would have replaced those Bilsteins while we had it apart, it was really silly not to because now I want to upgrade those.. food for thought

On your note regarding the sways Brian, we installed ours on the softest setting front and rear, I never got around to asking what you were recommending for that.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am

Tune the sways to taste.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Freescopesdad » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:23 pm

But perhaps you come saying you want it 50% better in the turns, then I will suggest the Racing Beat Sways. And perhaps you come back saying you want it 100% better/flatter in the turns...in which case we suggest our Progress Sways


I am confused :?: . You state above that the Progress sways are twice as good (better/flatter) than the RB sways. Why? Your store comments that the RB sways are your "new favorite". Both have a hollow front bar, adjustments are 3F/2R, only the OD's are different (and the price as the Progress are 20% more expensive). Curious...
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:22 pm

Perhaps 'better' is too subjective.....I should have stuck with 'flatter'. The Racing Beat sways are the best seller here, and the 'best' choice for most folks seeking much more flat than stock. The Progress Sways are quite a bit more serious than the Racing Beat sways, perhaps overkill for the average customer.....but for those who want it really FLAT in the corners they really work well (we love them with the Progress springs on my wife's 2014). The comparison of the OD of the bars won't convey accurately how much more serious the Progress sways are....the MUCH more heavy duty brackets and wider bushings with the Progress sways effectively make the sways far higher rate than the Racing Beat combo.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby AZ Sun Lover » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:10 pm

Hmm,
I will add my .02 cents.
I just removed Mazdaspeed PRHT springs & NC2 Bilsteins from my wife's 08 (NC1) GT, soft-top. I installed a set of NC2 front springs, Koni's w/ a set of low to mild sway-bars. I like the RX-8 red front w/ yellow rear, they just work very well for a DD & are well balanced at the limit.
I will say I was totally shocked on what just Koni's & sway-bars do for this car. It's not going to the track or autocross, it's just my wife's DD. Remember we are in our mid 50's so this is coming from someone thats over the hill. (I am not my wife. :wink: )
My word of *advice* is buy Koni shocks.

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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Bart » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:50 am

What Koni's are you referring to?
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:36 am

For the NC we are all talking KONI SPORT.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby NaregM677 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:28 pm

The initial question was asked for a soft-top. Am I assuming correctly that the same information is valid for a power hard-top convertible?
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:34 pm

Yes, the Progress springs work on both....and we use them in my wife's 2012 PRHT.
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Bart » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:45 am

With the Progress springs and OEM Bilstein shocks, will the bump stops need to be cut in half?

Was impressed at how quickly the Progress springs and sway bars were delivered. Now if only the weather would warm up and stop snowing so I can install the goodies on the car.

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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:52 am

On my wife's 2012 we kept the stops full length with stock bilsteins and that worked out great.

But if a customer adds the Koni SPORT shocks, that would lower the car another half inch or so and at that point you need to trim stops to avoid riding them all the time (or get our FCM stops for lowered cars on koni).
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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Bart » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:43 pm

I'm a believer!

Upgraded my NC2 with Progress springs and sway bars! Totally changes the car. Until this upgrade I really was not aware that the car didn't inspire confidence. What a difference! The car now exudes oodles of confidence. It's so much fun to drive! Take it from me, if you're on the fence, do yourself a favor and make the upgrade. I want more, in fact, I've already put the bars on the firmest position.

Next upgrade, probably Koni Sports. Yeah, I should have replaced them when I replaced the springs. Oh well! Now that I've removed the shocks once, doing it again will be a breeze.

Then a complete exhaust system.

Question: Will installing an X-Brace be noticeable? I want the car to be firmer yet.

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Re: Progress Springs vs. Racing Beat Springs w/factory Bilst

Postby Brian » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:17 pm

Hi Bart

Thanks for the feedback, happy to hear you like those.

The X brace won't make a difference you can feel, that's an incremental upgrade from X brace already on the car. If you do the big rear butterfly brace. you can feel the difference. Or, to do it all consider the full 5 piece kit.

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