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Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:49 am
by SimplyClean
Looking to upgrade the brakes, my car is DD, but does see autox days every so often. Are there any disadvantages of the playboy cup car brakes, or just stick to the high performance brakes?

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:39 am
by Brian
It's overkill for autocross. For autocross my suggestion is just good pads, Hawk HPS or Porterfield R4S. If you need new rotors anyway then certainly these are some of the best. If lines are past 100k then new lines are nice. The only disadvantage of the setup is that those pads need some temperature to really work ideally... and autocross rarely has heavy brake loads to get the pads to ideal temp.

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:19 am
by SimplyClean
Would the High Performance DBA slotted rotors and hp plus pads work on the oe calipers?

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:24 am
by Brian
Yes, good choices....and they work with stock calipers.

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:19 am
by JamesK383
Brian, I'm shopping for new rotors also and decided I want DBA too.

Howevee, I'm having trouble deciding what to select.

I can't find any data or description to understand the differences between each model in the price range. ie. What value do I get by investing in more expensive rotors.

Can you help. Specifically I'm interested in the slotted rotors for road use.

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:07 am
by Brian
Yes, the higher priced versions are higher density material and better and more precise finish. For example, in the DBA line you see we have the lowest cost version and for street use those work great. For street use the only advantage of the higher cost DBA product is that it will last longer. For Track customers putting much more thermal shock into the rotors the higher priced higher density product is also much more durable and crack resistant.

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:52 am
by njaremka
Brian: I'm looking at needing new brakes come spring time, too. What is your recommendation for pads on a daily driver? I value good initial bite, low dust, and consistent pedal feel.

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:33 am
by Brian
njaremka wrote:Brian: I'm looking at needing new brakes come spring time, too. What is your recommendation for pads on a daily driver? I value good initial bite, low dust, and consistent pedal feel.
My suggestion on those factors is Hawk HPS

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:00 pm
by matthew-m
I do not consider the Hawk HPS low dust, when compared to the Mazda OEM pads. Hawk HPS pads remind me of OEM BMW pads, if you have ever owned a BMW. Freshly cleaned wheels will be completely covered in dust within a week of hard street driving (late breaking, occasional back roads).

If you never go to the track, the high temp benefits of these pads are likely not necessary for the street. I plan to go back to OEM pads (unless I go to a brake kit for lower weight).

Re: Brakes for the NC

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:38 am
by Ryan @ GWR
Try to Porterfield R4S for less dust but similar performance otherwise to the Hawk HPS. OEM pads will get by for daily duties to/from work, cruising, etc. but we do get into the limits of those pads with spirited driving.