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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby eluviis » Sun May 20, 2012 9:34 am

Hi Brian, I really enjoyed watching the SCCA Solo tour a few weeks ago. I would've not been able to attend the AX yesterday anyway, but when's the next AX you'll be at? I'd love to watch and bring my car. Maybe run it too (with that clear tape stuff you used). I've never run an AX, so I want to watch more before giving it a go.

If there's an event running memorial day weekend, I won't be able to make that as I will be already racing from San Diego to Oceanside (over a different kind of surface - water - as in this sorta thing: http://www.da-woody.com/10YCSAT/10YCSAT.html ) - But anytime after that for sure. Apart from the SCCA calendar, is there any other site I can keep up with local AX events?

Also, maybe you should bring the new NC2 to cars and coffee Saturday mornings in Carlsbad. - Again, not Memorial weekend, cause I won't be there :mrgreen:
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby matthew-m » Sun May 20, 2012 5:09 pm

Brian wrote:
roadster_nh wrote:Given its DD status, I think it would be interesting as a test bed for strategic placement of lightweight sound deadening material. With that and the performance mods, you could look at it as 'civilized performance.'



It's funny you mention that, was thinking the same last night while driving home on freeway drive of about 20 miles that the road noise is surprisingly high for a brand new car....with power retracting hard top. With that in mind I was thinking that I could add some Enkei wheels and save several pounds per corner and 'spend' some of that weight savings on sound killing materials in key locations....to end up with car that rides and handles better and also is smoother, and with less road noise. Anybody have a suggestion for lightest effective road noise killer?

This is our first PRHT and first NC2, and I am having a lot fun throwing it around off ramps to see what it will do. Around town it is fun, on the freeway less so with that road noise mentioned above. The ragtop has enough wind noise with the top up to cover a lot of the road surface noise. In the PRHT the road surface noise seems much more intense...perhaps merely because of the lack of the wind noise, but perhaps in part because of an echo effect off off the hard top.


I found a paintable noise-control product called QuietCoat at http://www.quietcar.net that seems to provide low weight with better results than the mat types of products. Has anyone tired this?
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Brian » Sun May 20, 2012 9:11 pm

eluviis wrote:Hi Brian, I really enjoyed watching the SCCA Solo tour a few weeks ago. I would've not been able to attend the AX yesterday anyway, but when's the next AX you'll be at? I'd love to watch and bring my car. Maybe run it too (with that clear tape stuff you used). I've never run an AX, so I want to watch more before giving it a go.

If there's an event running memorial day weekend, I won't be able to make that as I will be already racing from San Diego to Oceanside (over a different kind of surface - water - as in this sorta thing: http://www.da-woody.com/10YCSAT/10YCSAT.html ) - But anytime after that for sure. Apart from the SCCA calendar, is there any other site I can keep up with local AX events?

Also, maybe you should bring the new NC2 to cars and coffee Saturday mornings in Carlsbad. - Again, not Memorial weekend, cause I won't be there :mrgreen:


We make most of the local SCCA autocross events. Our habit lately has been to play with the project car on practice Saturdays and use our supercharged 2007 for competition Sundays. Looks like next event is June 2 and 3rd. The calendar link for anybody seeking to join the fun is HERE.
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Chris Thompson » Mon May 21, 2012 10:36 am

eluviis wrote: I've never run an AX, so I want to watch more before giving it a go.

No need to watch. Just show up prepared to drive and have fun. Lots of friendly folks to help you thru sign up and such.
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby eluviis » Mon May 21, 2012 10:59 am

^^^ Thanks! Good to know....

As far as gear, all I need is a DOT approved helmet, right?
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Brian » Mon May 21, 2012 11:22 am

eluviis wrote:^^^ Thanks! Good to know....

As far as gear, all I need is a DOT approved helmet, right?


Helmet needs to be latest Snell automotive standard, but they even have a few loaner helmets if your helmet is not current.
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby projectrally » Tue May 29, 2012 12:11 am

Came to this thread late, but following with great interest. I have a 2010 PRHT as my daily driver. I run in STR, but I am firmly committed to the idea that any performance upgrades must be tempered with every day livability.

Excited to see front lip spoiler when it happens.
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby ptr622 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:30 pm

Brian,

How much is the outside diameter of the new rolled tips on your mufflers?
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Brian » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:29 pm

ptr622 wrote:Brian,

How much is the outside diameter of the new rolled tips on your mufflers?


3.5" OD outlet tips...
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby roadster_nh » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:18 am

Brian wrote:
ptr622 wrote:Brian,

How much is the outside diameter of the new rolled tips on your mufflers?


3.5" OD outlet tips...


Brian, what was the primary driver behind changing to rolled tips? Customer feedback and demand I presume? I've always really like the original tips, but I may be in the minority.

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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Brian » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:28 am

roadster_nh wrote:
Brian wrote:
ptr622 wrote:Brian,

How much is the outside diameter of the new rolled tips on your mufflers?


3.5" OD outlet tips...


Brian, what was the primary driver behind changing to rolled tips? Customer feedback and demand I presume? I've always really like the original tips, but I may be in the minority.

Terry


I too like our classic modest tips, but indeed we have long had requests for a rolled tip but when we looked around at the choices we didn't like that the rolled tips used by competitors are all very heavy...as much as five pounds each! It's a philosophical point for my hot rod racer's brain that we just can't make a 'performance' muffler that is heavier than stock yet most of our competitors are making mufflers that are heavier than stock (FM, Racing Beat, etc). For years we did nothing on this because the tooling didn't exist to make a nice rolled tip that is as light as the tips we have been using. But...now the tooling does exist. So, it took waiting for better tooling and an investment in new equipment but now we have nice rolled tips that do not add weight.

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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby eluviis » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:30 am

Do you have this new rolled-tip Q in appearance package length as well?
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby Brian » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:37 am

eluviis wrote:Do you have this new rolled-tip Q in appearance package length as well?


Nope, it will be a while before it migrates to other versions and choices.


EDIT, UPDATE.....NOW we do! Here is what Appearance Package Version Looks Like ON APPEARANCE PACKAGE CAR. Nice and FLUSH fit....looks great.
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby eluviis » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:02 pm

Ok, no worries. I'm in no hurry. I won't be doing anything until I do the suspension (saving for that).
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Re: Our New 2012 PRHT SS Project....

Postby roadster_nh » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:42 pm

They do look more factory-like and they fill out the cut-outs well. Kudos to you for listening to your customers, but I'm still likin' the old tips. And I'll bet the old ones make my car go faster. :lol:
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