PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DYNO

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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby BillK336 » Sun May 28, 2017 8:04 am

But are the B8's, or B9's for that matter, much different form the OEM Club Bilsteins?
And, if used with RoadsterSport springs, would the B8's use the stock or short bumpstops?
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby BillK336 » Mon May 29, 2017 2:03 am

^^^ Sorry, that SHOULD have been:
But are the B6's, or B8's for that matter, much different form the OEM Club Bilsteins?
And, if used with RoadsterSport or Progress (ST) springs, would the B8's use the stock or short bumpstops?
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Mon May 29, 2017 11:30 am

The high speed damping is where I feel the difference over the stock Club Bilsteins, which we tested when first developing our springs. You could use stock bumpstops and that would still give you extra half inch of travel but I prefer our short stops which gives a good extra inch of travel with B8/Short stops compared to stock Club Bilsteins and stock stops (I like more free travel before stops which helps the car soak up more road surface chatter without transfer of that chatter through the stops).
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby BillK336 » Tue May 30, 2017 2:43 am

So now I'm leaning toward B8's with RS springs and bumpstops as a touring solution, instead of Konis, stock springs, and Progress sways. Wouldnt have to worry about jackdown on those winery roads...
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Tue May 30, 2017 4:34 pm

Great day of fun with Grassroots MotorSports Magazine and our Fiat and ND Miata on track at Willow Springs Raceway. Fair fight with same tires, wheels, suspension, etc. Article coming in future issue with details.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:47 am

Teaser Pics from Tom Suddard of Grassroots Motorsports Magazine from shootout last weekend.

Excited to read the Article !
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby NathanD277 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:05 am

Brian, quick cosmetic question for you. Does the Velox diffuser hide the resonator on the long tube mid-pipe? I was considering modifying the mid-pipe to make it sit higher by replacing the resonator with a Burns SS muffler ($350-$550). If the diffuser hides it when looking at the rear of the car, I'd rather go that route than hack up the exhaust. The diffuser would be the same cost range as the Burns muffler, plus I'd get the added aero benefits and a nice look.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby NathanD277 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:09 am

Quick note to that. I have the SSTT muffler, so the diffuser would have to sit in it's absolute lowest position.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:24 pm

Good question, do not currently have the Velox item on our car (had it off for playing with numerous muffler mods) so best I can say is that I imagine it would help hide the resonator from some angles... but how much I cannot recall at this moment.

Go to the Velox description on our site and see the low angle pics, including the pic below, and you can still see the resonator pretty clearly...but shooting up from the ground. Looking at these shots I expect that from eye level with the muffler tip the resonator is mostly hidden.

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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Ryan @ GWR » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am

Photo from SEMA 2016 when we visited ACT's booth and the new ND clutch was on display. This clutch and a complimentary flywheel are still not quite in production but we now have pre-production units here from ACT to begin testing with!

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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:02 am

Ryan @ GWR wrote:Photo from SEMA 2016 when we visited ACT's booth and the new ND clutch was on display. This clutch and a complimentary flywheel are still not quite in production but we now have pre-production units here from ACT to begin testing with!

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This ACT Clutch and ACT Light Flywheel is now installed in our ND for testing. First impressions is that pedal pressure very close to stock, just slightly heavier (which is good). With any light flywheel there is the expectation of a little increase in vibration because the flywheel is a big spinning dampener and as the weight gets lower the vibrations will climb. I didn't notice the increased vibrations in the first drive, which was lower rpms. On the second drive, spinning it to redline I did notice some increased vibrations from roughly 6000 rpms and up.

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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby NathanD277 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:16 am

Do they plan to make an aluminum option to cut that weight down some more? I'm planning to stay NA, so lighter would be my priority in a clutch kit.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:22 am

Fidanza and other flywheel makers will do aluminum, but ACT prefers steel. This is their "StreetLite" and they might do a "Prolite" version...which would still be steel but another 2 to 3 pounds less weight. From driving this Streetlite my feeling today is that I would not want lighter, the anticipated additional vibrations would get annoying.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby NathanD277 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:32 am

Thanks, Brian. That's disheartening. I was hoping to knock a few extra pounds off when it came time to change the clutch to help liven up rev characteristics.
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Re: PROJECT ND: Parts Development, Testing, Measurements, DY

Postby Brian » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:29 pm

A little autocross fun testing the flywheel and clutch, worked great.....

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