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NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:09 pm

I have an 06 mx5 which I will run in either CS or STR. In reading the SCCA rules I get the impression the car can be brought to MSR specs and I would appreciate any input from anyone who knows the facts. I have raced for over 30 years in autocross,spec miata,gt3,gt5,bracket racing and TAG karts and I know how vague the rules can be sometimes. Now my other question would be if the car cannot be brought to MSR specs would the car be competitive in STR with the koni/progress setup plus all the other allowed STR mods. I want the car to remain streetable and due to my job I won't be able to race every weekend,so I really don't want to spend 2k plus for a coilover setup if I don't need to
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby Brian » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:23 am

Only a 2007 can be brought up to MSR spec.
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby mitchman » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:59 am

For road racing SSB, you can convert any year to an MSR, but for SCCA Solo (autocross) it has to be a 2007 base model like Brian says.
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:39 am

OK so CS is out what about STr with the koni/progress spring setup plus sway bars full exhaust/intake and of course the 17x9 wheel and tire package. Can that shock/spring package compete or do I have to go the full monte with coilovers
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby mitchman » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:55 am

"Compete" at what level? It all depends on your competition. Maybe locally there won't be that many fully prepped cars in STR so you'll be fine. Maybe even regionally (National Tours/ProSolos) you could do okay. Nationally, I doubt you could get by with that shock/spring combo, but it's worth a try. :)
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby Brian » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:50 am

It really all depends on what region you are in. Some of the fastest STR guys in the country are 'local' here in San Diego....
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:52 am

No national stuff just local and this is just to feed the racing bug. I did the scca and nhra national stuff for years and while fun it started to become more of a job than a hobby. I'm starting to think I may enjoy doing track days more,that way I can do whatever to the car without having to focus on a certain class. I would really like to go the super charger route and hunt down unsuspecting porches.
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:18 pm

quick question will 245/40-17 tire on 17x9 with 48mm offset fit without fender roll and that would be with koni shocks & racing beat springs
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby Brian » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:23 pm

Almost.....

A 235/40-17 tire on 17x9 with 48mm clears stock fenders.....but the 245 will usually need a little fender roll.

Variables include tire brand variances and camber .....with enough camber you might get 245mm on there without need for fender roll with 48mm offset wheel choice but you might also suffer uneven wear depending on amount of freeway driving, etc.
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:11 pm

I think the 235/40 should be plenty on a 2400 lb car, if I was looking for the last 10th I would just get a set of hoosiers instead of dunlops. I'll have to dig out my alignment tools and adjust the camber when I go to the track. Thanks for your input
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:41 am

With the Koni shocks wouldn't you have the same problem adjusting the rears as with the Tokico HTS
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby Brian » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:06 am

The Tokico has optional rear adjustment cables that make the adjustment MUCH easier.
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:37 am

I understand the option with the hts shocks but my question was if with Koni's you have the same adjustment issue on the rear as it appears the adjustment knob is on top same as the tokico shocks
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby elloco54 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:04 am

One other thing is the dampening on the sport package bilstein shocks the same as the aftermarket version, I'm getting ready to order my suspension upgrades and weighing my options
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Re: NC autocross setup/rules

Postby mitchman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:51 pm

The person I bought my car from (Stan Whitney.....fantastic at prepping autocross cars....I'm lucky), he drilled a small hole through the rear shock adjuster knobs and ran a small allen wrench through the holes. Just a simple piece of tape holds them in place. It makes it REAL easy to reach in there and adjust the rear shocks. I used to have an NC with Koni sports and their little wrench was a poor solution in my opinion. I think you could drill a hole in the Koni adjuster and do the same trick.

Point being, don't limit your shock choices on how easy the rears are to adjust. This trick will make them all easy to adjust.
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