Tire Stager

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Tire Stager

Postby WFO » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:44 pm

Has anyone stagered the tires on N/C. I was running 17X8 w48ofset / 235/45 front and rear. Do to a recent wreck. I am thinking of going to a 17X8 with 225 up front 17X9 and 235 on the rear on my next build
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby Brian » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:53 pm

People have done it. Generally not a good idea. The fitment of the 235/40/17 is actually easier up front than in the rear. It is the rear that needs a fender roll if you are not using that size on a 48 to 50mm choice. Thus, we usually suggest that for best balance and handling that you use same size all four corners. Many use 235/40/17 all four corners.
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby WFO » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:27 pm

I was running Enkei RS+M 17x8 48mm with 235/40/17
I am looking at running the new Enkei PF01 18x9, 45mm on the next car. What would tire size would be recomended?
Or can you get this in a 17"
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby Brian » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:53 am

On the 18x9 you could go with a 245/35/18 or 225/35/18 or 255/35/18.
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Re: N/C Wheels and Tires

Postby WFO » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:01 pm

Do you mean 235 not 225/35/18 ?
I know the 255 would require an agressive fender roll. How agressive would the 245/35/18 on a Enkei PF01 18x9 be compaired to the roll I did using the 235/40/17 with a 48mm offset (my old setup).

Would the larger tire and rim tighten up the side wall (compaired to my old setup)

I am also thinking of replacing my 2006 (now a parts car) with 2010 N/C / Pros and Cons anyone
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby Brian » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:46 pm

Nope, I mean 225. That's an 9 inch wide tire and it is fine on an 9 inch wide rim.

But addressing your larger goal, I think you are going the wrong direction with 18 inch. With less sidewall you get less compliance, you get less forgiveness, less warning before breakaway.
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby WFO » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:13 am

I am also thinking of replacing my 2006 (now a parts car) with 2010 N/C / Pros and Cons anyone
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby Brian » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:26 am

WFO wrote:I am also thinking of replacing my 2006 (now a parts car) with 2010 N/C / Pros and Cons anyone


The 2010 has all the updates....forged crank and rods, etc. You can likely get at least a grand selling the motor from the 2006. Perhaps another grand for the transmission. The shell can be sold for somebody who wants to build a race car from it, etc.

The flip side of the argument to get the new car is that I am starting to see used 2006 NCs on Craigs List for 10k....see link here. You might be able to part out the old car, get the replacement, and end up not too bad on the dollars.
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby WFO » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:26 am

This is my commuter car, Is the longevity of the 2010 engine better do to the upgrades better ? I drive around 30K a year
for 10K i cou


Tire & wheel combo
I agree the warning or lack of warrning its going to breal loose with a 18/255/35 low profile would not be a good trade off for a daly driver.

Offset confuse me I was running a 17X8 48mm and the wheel I am looking at now is a 17X8 45mm / so it's 3mm wider (outward) than the 45mm or do I have the reversed ?
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Re: Tire Stager

Postby Brian » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:31 am

WFO wrote:This is my commuter car, Is the longevity of the 2010 engine better do to the upgrades better ? I drive around 30K a year
for 10K i cou


Tire & wheel combo
I agree the warning or lack of warrning its going to breal loose with a 18/255/35 low profile would not be a good trade off for a daly driver.

Offset confuse me I was running a 17X8 48mm and the wheel I am looking at now is a 17X8 45mm / so it's 3mm wider (outward) than the 45mm or do I have the reversed ?


We can't say that longevity of the 2010 motor will be longer. It should be stronger...but whether it will prove to last longer is just a guess at this point.

yes, 45mm offset will be a wider track.
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