NC Coilover Install....OHLINS, JIC, etc...

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Re: NC Coilover Install....OHLINS, JIC, etc...

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Thanks Brian, and pictures of what you do in the back, are you removing trim of cutting ?
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Looking fast Terry!
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Brian wrote:... space out bottom shock where it attaches the shock to the car by at least a quarter inch. ...
This is specifically concerning the Flex Z coil overs.

At the rear in the stock installation of the bottom of the shock to the hub there are two thick washers, one under the bolt head and one on the other side of the bushing. Are both these washers retained when installing the Flex Zs?

I ask because the shaft that the bushing installs over is quite short, such that it only goes about half way through the bushing. There must be a reason for this but it eludes me. If the bottom washer was removed there would be more engagement of bushing onto shaft, and I don't see any clearance problems elsewhere.

Any clarification appreciated.
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Parking DFV info here.

THE TECHNOLOGY
The Features Of DFV Technology
So what is DFV? It is Dual Flow Valve technology – and it sets us apart from our competitors. Only Öhlins has DFV technology on its road and track products.
With DFV, the dual flow valve gives the same characteristics on rebound as it does on compression, thanks the damper fluid having a consistent path of flow in both directions. This means that the wheel and tyre can quickly and effectively resume their important position back on the ground, providing grip and traction. The new Öhlins R&T range uses DFV technology on every single fitment, making it the perfect upgrade for the enthusiast that needs comfort and agility in the one unit.
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Figure 1: (Compression flow) At low shaft speeds, oil flows mostly through the shaft jet bleed (lower dotted arrow). At higher shaft speeds, oil flows mostly through the compression ports in the piston (upper dotted arrow). At very high shaft speeds, or during sudden shaft accelerations, oil can also escape through the compression ports in the DFV, increasing comfort. Figure 2: (Rebound flow) At low shaft speeds, oil flows mostly through the shaft jet bleed (lower dotted arrow). At higher shaft speeds, oil flows mostly through the rebound ports in the piston (upper dotted arrow). At very high shaft speeds, or during sudden shaft accelerations, oil can also escape through the rebound ports in the DFV, maintaining tyre contact with the road.
Because DFV opens more quickly and easily on minor road imperfections, ride comfort is surprisingly supple and more akin to an OEM strut than a coilover set-up. Over undulating surfaces, the compliancy of the R&T units allows the car to crest bumps and pot-holes, whilst still keep stable and in control. Traction is always maintained at its optimum level. When comparing suspension, why settle for second best?
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Figure 3: (Vehicle – no DFV) Without DFV the oil can not flow through the piston quickly enough on the rebound stroke after hitting a bump, so the tyre is not able to stay in contact with the road.
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Figure 4: (Vehicle – DFV technique) The DFV valve opens, letting the oil flow quicker through the piston on the rebound stroke after hitting a bump, enabling the tyre to stay in contact with the road.
When adjusting ride height on coilover units, it’s worth comparing how it’s done. On many inferior designs, height is adjusted by raising or lowering the lower spring platform. This has the effect of compressing or extending the spring, which can limit the suspension travel that may cause topping out. The Öhlins method is to leave the spring seat in its perfect position, whilst the lower flange spins easily on the threaded body, to allow you to adjust with absolute precision whilst maintaining the perfect characteristics that we took so long to design in! Once you’ve set it all up, the adjuster simply locks off to maintain your exact settings.
Dampers will get hot. That’s one thing that you can be sure of. As the piston moves within the damper, it generates friction – and therefore, heat. Although we can’t stop heat, we can deal with it, and this is yet another way that Öhlins differs from the competition. As the heat increases, the viscosity of the damper fluid can change, altering the car’s handling characteristics. Our unique needle bleed valve expands with temperature, closing the gap that the fluid travels through, maintaining a consistent damping rate. The best thing of all? You won’t even notice! All you’ll feel is that the car responds consistently, lap after lap, turn after turn. Allowing you to concentrate on braking points and apexes whilst the Öhlins technology takes care of the damping.
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Figure 5: Thermal Expansion
These kits all work well ‘out of the box’, but there’s still plenty of adjustment for you to set things your way. You like stiff and reactive? Or soft and forgiving? It’s all there. Too much low speed rebound damping can have an adverse effect on grip, so the easily accessible adjuster at the base of the Öhlins units allows small, but positive increments of fine tuning, so you can take into account every single parameter. Sounds complicated? Nothing could be further for the truth. Just a few clicks either way from our factory settings will soon have your car responding precisely to your inputs and driving style.
Most of the Road & Track McPherson struts also feature camber adjustable upper and lower mounts to give you the possibility to fine tune your wheels for the right occasion – whether you want to go for a ride in your neighborhood or take your car for a spin at the track on a weekend.
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Any updates on spring rates for the street and/or race tuned versions? Also, estimated first availability dates?

And a big Thank You for bringing Ohlins on board for tuning so early in the ND product cycle.
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We have given Ohlins our feedback, but they are making the call on rates. So, no numbers yet. We hear SPRING before we get first kits. I expect entire first batch will be standard kit, with race kits coming later.
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OHLINS for ND, after install pic by customer Pete Stoppani
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Bump to make easy to find.
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I just ordered a set for my NC. I know I've read tuning the settings is an art and takes practice but are there suggested setting starting points for road and track? I would like to have a good ride to the track and then adjust for when I am on the track.

Thanks
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Brian,
My apologies but I just skimmed through here and don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the front spring size is an 65mm x 8” spring for the Ohlin’s?
I found a used set I was thinking about purchasing. Now pushing 60 I think I would like to lower the front spring rate by 1 or 1.5kg... Then replacing the RX-8 Red & Yellow swaybar’s with an NC Blue & Green or with Red & Blue or Green swaybar’s.

Thanks in advance,
AZ
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